OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOO NO NONOONOOON DONT RAIGTHO! D:
Aaand even this is human biased.
He could’ve killed her in 2 seconds aiming at the exposed and easily hittabe throat. Instead for story and because humans overestimates themselves, this happens… And throughout all the comic. Hunters, a whole pack killed (even cubs. and hunters DON’T ever kill cubs. Or shouldn’t at least), dogs killed for food while there’s her grandpa right next to them, because “humans are more important, the cat at the end! Fantastic!
I hope this comic (which were highly promising at the start) will redeem itself.
personally I would prefer to eat dogs that my grandfather even if he
died ^ ^, then the guys who massacred the pack were not hunters (seven
she said herself) but shepherds or city dwellers who Only attach importance to their bussiness. Then
she interposed her arm between her neck and the wolf, because she is a
huntress and she knows that this is the place that the wolf will aim
first. So is not it?
Why ending other lives?! D:
(And no. No things would act like that. This scene was for story purposes only.)
(plus, she cuts right into his skull… that must be a really strong knife not to break in half and she must be hulk.)
why ending other lives? strange question, why wolf eat deer?
Are you really this stupid? -.-
Ok I may have misunderstood what you said, English is not my mother tongue, no need to be insulting.
English isn’t my mother tongue either.
And sorry but I was struck by that.
What I said is why would you ever end other lives (of those that most like you and trust you and are most loyal to you) when you could’ve use those already dead?
It just does not make any sense.
Ooh ok, what is your mother tongue? I am french. I understand what you mean, but I think the majority of people would prefer to kill dogs before they become cannibals. Especially if disposable corpses are members of your family.
I am Italian.
And that is just stupid.
To prefer to eat dogs rather than humans? Well, it’s a matter of point of view I guess.
No. it’s not only that.
They are alive, the other is already dead.
They saved your worthless life so far the other did nothing. Who do you chose?
Plus: dogs aren’t part of the family? and… they that saved and kept you alive till that point you want to eat?
Part of the family or
not, they are not human, we can not communicate with them as with humans
and if we eat them, it is not cannibalism, I do not understand your
point of view, in time of Distress, it is natural to privilege his species not?
Not in the slightest.
With the whole “killing the dogs” scene, that’s honestly because that’s the logical thing that would happen. Humans will almost always pick the survival of their fellow man over animals, especially if said humans are hunters who are already used to killing animals, in a cruel apocalyptic world, and the alternatives are to:
A) Starve to death/Be eaten by the dogs (Which is also a very real possibility. Dogs are loyal and great (and sentient, in this universe) yes, but just like humans can get brutal in stressful situations, so can dogs. So can any animal, really.)
B) Resort to cannibalism (Aforementioned “Animals can get brutal” talk.)
Given that a human child was also involved, i think its safe to say that the choice was a hard one but far better than the alternatives. Any reasonable human would do what they did in those circumstances. That scene wasn’t about the authors having some kind of hate vendetta against animals, nor are really any scenes in Off-White. And if we’re talking on a meta-level, its important to Seven’s character so you can’t argue it was pointless suffering for sufferings sake.
Same with this scene. It isn’t about Seven’s plot armor as much as the fact that wolves aim to knock down their prey first (Which we have SEEN in one of the hunt scenes in this very comic! The pack bit the legs of an elk to knock it down.) A human’s center of gravity is their chest, so wolves (and dogs) automatically aim for the chest. The goal is to knock down and stun the prey (because hitting the floor kind of does that), and THEN latch onto the exposed neck while they’re still dazed. The neck is a hard place to reach on most animals, as well as a very small part of the body, so aiming for it on its own is kind of silly (its easy to miss, and when you hunt elks that can break your bones with one kick, you don’t want to miss) which is why wolves opt to grab at legs or knock down prey or wear down prey to exhaustion before going for the kill. On the other end, a person’s natural reaction to an attack (especially a charging attack) is to put their arms out for protection. Probably an instinct gained from years of, idk, wolf attacks. Not to mention the aforementioned hunter experience. If you think a person will just lay over and die when encountering an angry wolf, you’re wrong. I mean, there’s obviously a HUGE physical disadvantage, but i mean. Humans aren’t made of toothpicks, buddy.
Rant over, i’m sorry but i just am a bit tired of people getting upset because animals die in this comic (Well, upset for the wrong reasons.) Just because humans kill animals doesn’t mean the message is “Kill animals!” Just because a character SAYS humans are more important than animals doesn’t mean THAT’s the message, either. This is a great, realistic action scene (not even mentioning the story awesomeness) and i honestly have no idea what your talking about when it comes to “redeeming” itself. It seems to me that your looking for a animal-centric story with little or no human interactions (and the only ones having animals ‘winning’ or humans being punished for hunting animals), and are irritated by the human characters, which, i mean, i guess makes sense??? But Off-White set itself up right from the start as a fantasy story about all of creation and its guardians, all animals, and humans are animals too. But If your looking for a story that has nothing to do with humans, then this obviously isn’t the place. But what upsets me is, because this comic isn’t what YOU want, you seem to be under the impression that it is bad (I.e, poorly written, poorly done, whatever you wanna define it as) which is an attitude i just despise.
Oh! I forgot the pack being killed thing. Yes, hunters should not kill cubs. …Under normal circumstances. Did you even read the comic? They didn’t kill the wolves because they wanted their pelts or meat or whatever (the main reason people hunt.) They killed because the wolves were killing their livestock. They wanted EVERY wolf dead, including the cubs. Because cubs grow up, and would just start eating livestock and the problem would start all over again. Now, i am not justifying their behavior (just giving the REASON). And neither is the comic! Did you even notice how the hunters were portrayed as assholes, willing to shoot and threaten strangers just for being in their way? Although i go by the basis that characters can be wrong in their beliefs, the fact that Gebo saw them as LITERAL MONSTERS does seem to be relevant.
T R I G G E R E D.
This comic emphasizes the fact that everyone matters, but there is a loss of balance, meaning that everyone and everything is weaker now. Please stop with the “humans matter more” theme because that’s not the point. Humans in this universe are pompous because there is no longer good to fight the evil.
That’s actually the whole point. I am tired of all these stories where humans matter more and are always right. Even in this one where the intro was so promising of the contrary. Still, I love the story, but I can’t tollerate all these lives lost to nothing.
You’re still not getting the picture. This story is all about the balance of life. Without good, there is no evil. Now that Skoll is gone, the sun is fading, and the wolves are weakened just as much as the humans are without Askr. It is fully plausible for this to happen during desperate times. I’ve heard of stories of people throwing their pets off of cliffs, so humans mercilessly killing wolf puppies is very possible when everyone is starving and the wolves are taking their food. This isn’t about how humans are all about everything, because if this story states anything, it’s that everyone matters in order for the world to be unified and stable.
Still, not something pleasurable to see, right? And my point of view was external to the story.