• Shop Dog

    IKI: Input Does Not Compute… F1skip

    • Artista

      Wow… A year.

      • Shop Dog

        thats not even one of my old comments thats just been since the website changed

  • Zaitiry

    I hope they fix that big ass neck iki have in the tird panel

    • that’s all fluff you see. I know my husky pup look the same at that angle when whe runs and I know she has a smaller neck

      • a dingus

        This comment was from before the pages were redone.

    • Artista

      Given the climate they’re in, they need big, fluffy necks.

    • NOTE:

      The comment above by Zaitiry referred to the old, unupdated page, meaning this thread should not be relevant to the current page as of this week

      So, yeah, if you want to reply, please reply to the newer comments here. XD

  • WARxWOLF86

    best example off “BIRD” ever lol

  • HutchTheLupe
  • Yaaaayyyyyyy a paaaage!!! ^.^

  • Deluge

    Yaaay!! i feel relieve seeing Iki’s happy face again.

  • Artista

    I don’t know why, but Iki’s expression in panel two looks like it could be his ‘orgasm face’. *comment section explodes*

    • I can’t erase that from my mind now.

      • Artista

        ….Kaya caused it.

  • Eia01

    It looks like Iki’s falling in panel 3… XD At least if you look at it that way. I can see it in my head how he fall and land on his head an bite his tongue. X’D

  • קיילי בת אברהם

    Pups…..

  • What’s even more interesting is Iki himself. XD

  • It’s okay, Raigho.

    You tried.

  • sara

    yay i have been waiting for a new page forever!!!

    • Embrace the moment, my friend
      Let it fill you with sustenance

  • Wolfie

    oh well :/

    • Being a dad sure can suck!
      I know this because I drove mine mad

      • Artista

        T’is the job of children. Just wait until what ours do. Double the madness!

      • Wolfie

        probably, I don’t know how to have a dad..never met him 🙁

        • Aww there there ;-; *nuzzles*
          Tak may not be a certified therapy K9, but you may now commence petting anyway. :3

          • Shop Dog

            that was creepy tak,

          • Sorry, I was in a playful mood and felt like referencing a comic strip I saw a few days ago.
            Besides, can you really count on me knowing what’s normal?

          • Artista

            Uhh, Avila-san Ithink you shouldn’t roleplay as a dog when someone confesses something like that.

          • My apologies! although I wasn’t actually role playing.

          • Wolfie

            xDD XDDD

            lol it’s alright ;u; My ´mom and him didn’t get along well :/ :U

  • SkyHighDisco

    Raigho be all like “I’m such a pretty lady.”

    • Prettier than fabulous Fab himself?

      • Artista

        Careful! You tread on the thin line above the abyss of heresy.

    • Artista

      Jera likes her men majestic. Jera must a hard girl to please. Raigho had to try several times to get her heart.

  • Artista

    I kinda hope Venressi gives the characters beats sometimes so we can ‘live in there world a little, like Miyazaki did. I hope Albert and Seven go on a date or do something just to relaxe in the city. I want to see more of that city.

    • Doesn’t have to be a good date. XD
      (I really feel there must be a trio, though. Where art thou, O Dapper!)

      • Artista

        That’s probably how window shopping would go down. Anti-tank rocket rocket launcher… Imagine her and Seras Victoria on a girls night out.

  • Artista

    Venressi, what’s the latest news?

  • L3Wilde

    Raigho in the last panel just looks like “ugh, how rude”

  • Deluge

    i’m dyiiiiiing…….
    You guys really need to read this…….
    Especially Sky Lily
    http://www.mangakoi.com/manga/niehime_to_kemono_no_ou/c001

  • Deluge

    i’m dyiiiiiing…….
    You guys really need to read this what i brought to you.
    Especially Sky Lily
    http://www.mangakoi.com/manga/niehime_to_kemono_no_ou/c001

    • Deluge

      And this

      • HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN omg omg omg omg

        WHAT IS THE NAME OF THIS

        Also “his majesty is fluffy”

        • Deluge

          Niehime to Kemono no Ou
          Sowee furgot to the name
          Also enjoy *Giggle*

          • First portion of Title is a little shocking. o.o

          • Deluge

            ??!

          • Deluge

            I’m interested

          • Although I’m not aware of any actual word of “Niehime”, Its close to “sacrificial princess” translated officially as “Princess of the sacrifice”.
            The description gives out that she, like many before her, was a sacrifice to the Beast King to be eaten (and she accepted it), but our current King either prolly didn’t know to eat her, and/or just really liked her (he really liked her enough to make her his consort), and the lady became the first human to be the queen over monsters which they really very much didn’t like, but the king overpowered them lol
            Hence “princess of the sacrifice”.

          • Artista

            I love Japan.

          • Deluge

            You forgot to say “Flies away”
            Well that was unexpected, although i can’t even find the meaning of that word. Thanks

        • Deluge

          Lel i remember her she is so adorable and delicated XD

      • Artista

        Only in Japan is anthropomorphism not demonized and labeled ‘furry.’

        • Deluge

          Oh i forgot, Beauty and the Beast consider Anthromorphism too.

          • Artista

            The lamp is my favorite, next to Mrs. Pots. I wish Disney did more of the misunderstood Monster theme. I’m sick of Princesses that are considered the first disney females to be ’empowered.’ I’m looking at you Merida and Anna! Repunzel, you’re fine. But seriously, why is Mulan so underated? A woman who disguises herself as a man, facing possible execution, faces discrimination because of her gender, and takes out an army, saves her captain twice, and saves her country. How do people miss that?!

          • Deluge

            By that time, all i can say is she’s Asian

          • Artista

            I didn’t mean to be rude. And I think I lost my original point in my rant. Initially I meant to knock on how some people say Tangled, or Frozen, or Brave, were of the first disney movies to feature a princess without what some call ‘stereotypes.’ Yet the movie Mulan was one of the first to break from those ‘stereotypes.’ I got WAAAYY to carried away in my original post. I will prevent such a mistake in the future.

          • Deluge

            No! I didn’t mean to say that you’re being rude. Now i’m worried on what you’re thinking on what i’ve said. It’s just Sarcasm, really!! I apologize for what i’ve said. Never thought that you would think of that way.

          • Shop Dog

            you can find female empowering films since the earliest days of cinema, its just that its always been a popular selling point to portray the strong woman thing above everybody elces films. its easy to advertise that sort of thing. you can look at the earliest black and white films and see the same exact story lines and caricatures rehashed in modern films. pritty much the reason i stopped going to the movies was because i got tired of them using the same ideas over and over and over agin.

          • One of my fav videos to watch. She’s beyond awesome!!

          • Artista

            Do you think the Beast reflect one of those two points? He could have made himself evil due anger, or the hopelessness in his situation.

          • “if the world’s only going to see a fox as shifty and untrustworthy, there’s no point in being anything else.”
            —Nick Wilde, Zootopia

          • Shop Dog

            thinks agin of The Todd from The Plague Dogs.

          • becuase most of the story was made up on disneys part to be all family friendly. also her not a man secret wasint very secret.

            the real mulan was a great worrior before recruiting herself. she challenged her father in a duel, and won, giving her his blessing before leaving to the army.

            however she was discovered, as a female, by another female worrier, the princess and is happily recruited, as a man, by her as they become best friends in war.

            at one point both surrendered and were close to being executed till pity was place on them, because they were both girls. both were set free with both going home, and the princess no longer being a princess because the war was lost.

            there was no real discrimination toward her, her secret wasint exactly kept well while on the other hand she didint try as hard to keep it hidden like in the movie. with all her Armour and such she just looked like a man and thats what the army assumed she was. no guy wants to go looking down another mans armor to see the parts, ya know. after the war ended she voluntarily revealed herself as a women, and all her comrades were perfectly fine with it.

            UNfortunately, after returning home she was to be sent to the palace and marry, becoming a concubine.

            she refused by committing suicide. which isint exactly a powering female story. :>

            its easy to make totally fictional people empowering and keeping it that way, but more difficult to boost something that was originally based on real depressing events. you obviously dont want kids reading the gritty parts of mulan. while fictional characters storys like Cinderella can constantly change.

            like the original grimm story of red riding hood, there was no lumber jack and the wolf ate red and grandma before leaving happily into the woods, but nowadays the common version is the woodsman saved them, fixed the wolf, and dropped him happily in the mountains with a happy ending.

          • Artista

            I sometimes wonder if kids movies should have some grittyness.

          • I don’t know, the original red riding hood story sounded happier to me. :v
            More of a lesson to it, anyhoo.

        • Banzai~! *(^o^)/* +1Japan
          It’s pretty much ingrained in our culture, what’s an extra level up the bipedal form? Now as for the West… (ー ー;)

          • Deluge

            i was going to say about Weste- EH!! er i mean Westlife their song on their time was all good. Really!! (Smile with fear)

          • Artista

            The furries took control. Western folk tales are full of anthros, mainly in childrens stories, or like the the 1850s-60s used as an allegory to real-life issues. Think Animal Farm.

          • Well, it ain’t very fair to just up and demonize furries in general, either. :>
            I mean, there isn’t a big consensus on what one is, actually.
            Unleeesss you’re talking about specifically Petting Zoo People, which is what most people generally think of as “furry”.

          • Rookamillion

            Chlorine Gas? O.o
            Did Saddam Join the Anti-Fur League? XD

          • I wouldn’t be surprised, he’d be seeing pagan gods everywhere. XD

          • Rookamillion

            Wow O.o

            I mean, I get some people don’t like furries, and they have their right to an opinion, but….Really? Terrorism? Has it really come to using chemical weapons? O.o

          • I guess. Who knows, if not an attempted murder, maybe it was some idiot who thought it was funny, wanted attention (??).
            The fact it was put next to living units (of which many other non-conventiongoers stay in, since it’s a hotel) definitely means it was intended to harm with no regard to whether or not they were there for the convention.

            Honestly, I’m not surprised. It was going to happen sooner or later, what with the many death threats thrown around. Can’t say it’ll be the last.

  • rhez

    Food: ever setting priorities straight.

    • Artista

      Also the woman’s way to a man’s heart.

      • wait … its not through the rib cage??

        • Artista

          That’s only if the guy was cheating on her, or if she’s abusive.

  • Nick Lopez

    Love his face in the first panel. ^^

  • DrWolfy

    I beleieve they made Iki not care because it’s actually Skoll who doesn’t care, or rather doesn’t want to care. Skoll wants a life of fun. Raigho is reminding him of something he is that he doesn’t want to be.

    • Shop Dog

      ya i could agree with that theory.

      • Artista

        But aren’t they adults? Gebo and Iki are probably the same age, and Gebo is fully grown, according to Raigho.

        • I guess one can be “fully grown” but still immature. So maybe they act could still be like teens, but still are technically adults. (How is adulthood marked in wolves anyway? When you can have pups? Stop being childish?)

          • Anon

            Females are able to breed at 1 year, but most seem to wait for the second year for safety. I believe wolves are fully grown adults around 2 years old (full sized but “teenagery,” young adults at the one year point). Sorry I totally forget my sources, but numerous books and websites seem to say this. I could be wrong though!

          • No, you are right, indeed many sources say this!
            I am however curious when they stop behaving puppylike.

            Why I ask is for example, humans are able to breed at the age of 16, but they don’t fully mature (as in, the brain) until 27…
            So, making offspring at a very immature age of mind. Like domestic dogs, forever in a juvenile state of mind, forever wanting to love everything. (Both cute and depressing)
            (Then again, humans and dogs are both weird)

            The body may say, “Hey everyone, it’s prime breeding time, we are now fully operational at maximum power! Don’t wait so long to have a family! 😀,” whereas the brain will be, “Whoah now, slow down! We still can’t figure out how to operate this station safely and correctly! Can’t do things without finishing up HQ’s computers and finish staffing with professionals, or bugs in the system and stupid staff will ruin us! D:

            Unless of course wild animals mature at equal rates of mind and body, then this question is irrelevant.

          • Anon

            “I am however curious when they completely stop behaving puppylike…”

            Yeah, you got it in the part that you edited, haha. Wolves will never really stop being playful, if that’s what you mean by puppylike. Iki doesn’t really act like a wolf realistically would (and for that matter, most of them aren’t super accurate because of course it’s a fantasy comic where we want to be able to relate to human emotions and behaviors. Lots of us already call Iki moon-moon for this reason ^^). He acts like a total derp. In reality, adult wolves well over 2 year still play amongst themselves to reinforce bonds, and also encourage pups to play with them.

            So TL;DR (itypetoomuchrip) never I guess? But 2 years is biologically an adult at full size and ready to breed.

            More info in case I haven’t rambled enough: The reason they wait isn’t so much their brain saying “Nonono, wait! You need to mature emotionally!” as much as it is for safety. Without getting too graphic, females often have a “practice heat” before the second where they will actually mate. They’ve also often spent a ton of energy growing to jump right into having pups. Some will wait even longer depending on food and what winter was like that year! It’s standard practice in domestic dog breeding to wait for the second heat too. Males are actually ready to go at year one, but they usually have to go leave the pack and find a female to be able to do so, therefore they wait.

            And a question for you! Do you think that wolves are on the same level of intelligence as humans are? This is a really interesting topic to me. Corvids, like magpies, when shown a mirror, display self-recognition; they know it’s themselves, and often act like “Ooh, DAMN am I ever hot!” and start grooming. It’s pretty funny. Some other animals do too (off hand, dolphins and pigs are considered intelligent). However, wolves and dogs do not display this self-recognition as far as I know, so one might debate that they aren’t quite as smart or have a conscience in that way. However, we have observed “sadness” at the loss of a litter or seperation from the pack, so maybe they do recognize some emotion?

            IMO we’re very far away from lupine philosophers that can think on our level with a fully fleshed out language, maths, and such, if we ever will see that at all (I doubt it), but they have basic displays of emotion and some primitive thought, though not detailed. Most of it, I would consider just programmed responses based on the need to survive. (Eg: Pack not here –> = bad –> Execute action “sadhowl.exe” to elicit response from pack if nearby or relieve stress –> Run program). I am a huge fan of anthropomorphic disney intelligent animals though!

          • Rookamillion

            It depends on how you define intelligence. Wolves and other canines have “human like intelligence” or as it is often called “sentience”. Self awareness, spatial reasoning, emotion, they have all these things. That isn’t unique to just them though. As you said, many animals have sentience, we just never knew before because we didn’t have the capability to put an animal in an MRI and scan their brains. Recent advances have allowed us to scan some animals, such as dogs, which were the focus of that particular study. They found that dogs had the same level intelligence as a human child. In short, they were able to learn basic language, understand and feel emotion, etc. Now, while no one has scanned a wolf in an MRI (unsurprisingly) considering dogs are mentally equivalent to an adolescent wolf, one can imagine that results would be similar if not leaning towards wolves being more intelligent. Can’t really be surprised though, the similarities between humans and wolves in various areas, such as landmark navigation and paleolithic family units, population distribution and impact on the enviroment indicates a very similar evolutionary origin. naturally, humans just continued to get more intelligent, because we had to do so to survive. Wolves had no need, as they were already capable of surviving and thriving with the intelligence and physical capabilities they had. XD

          • Rookamillion

            Alot of the things we often classify as intuition and feelings are really just basic instinct.

          • What use will a wolf have of being able to understand the concept of socks if he’s naked all the time? XD
            How I think it’d usually go normally:
            “Oh hey, that’s a big, puffy… foot, how’d that— Dear Fenrir did you just rip off your skin oh my dog what’re you doing?!
            “…. No, I just, took off this.. Thing. It’s cozy!”
            “….that’s.. Not your, skin???? Whaaaaat!?! But like, what, how— I don’t even know, I can’t—” wolf.exe has stopped responding.

          • Artista

            I don’t think age sixteen is ‘immature’ but depends on the individual, and society’s basic standards. People who lived a few centuries before us were most likely to be, on average, more mature by age 16 (though, not to say delinquency didn’t exist back then). The concept of ‘adolescence’ or ‘teenager’ didn’t come around until the mid nineteenth century. Therefore, without this modern concept, boys and girls were expected to become men and woman respectively, generally beginning around age twelve/thirteen, leaving childhood behind. In a way, I think I would prefer this old system, rather than our modern concepts because adolescence has become prolonged into even the late twenties, early thirties. Of course, a fully-developed cortex at age sixteen, or even eighteen, would definitely help.

          • That’d suck for me, since I’m rather… Delayed. 🙁

            Although interesting to note how teens were like back then. I wonder what 12 year olds were like? (If only they were more mature online… This is why we can’t have nice things)

        • Shop Dog

          there not full mature adults iki is two gebo is 2.5. there in the young adult late teenage stage.

          • Artista

            But wolves (sorry to be realistic) don’t have an adolescence stage.

    • Artista

      But Iki grows curious about it all later in the story. The magic orb that killed a rabbit (I think), for example.

  • Shop Dog

    oh hey theres people on this page now.

  • Deluge

    There’s a prequel of Aladin Dark story

    • Artista

      Seems legit.

    • Oh my gawd

    • Shop Dog

      But, Robbin William’s.

    • That made me laugh waaaaaaaay harder than a reversed gif probably should have

      http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcmltfxBR71qdx74c.gif

      • Deluge

        “Moses, i know it’s hard to believe but you need to accept it”
        Moses reaction was priceless XD

        • Artista

          Context of it all makes me feel even worse for laughing at it.

      • CutieSnake

        I made an account just so I could up vote this. 🙂

        • Your icon is beyond adorable.

          • CutieSnake

            Thank you!

    • This is too priceless.

  • Deluge
  • Artista

    A bit of a gloomy question, but since there’s no real discussion going on to my knowledge, how would you react if you were in the OW world, not seeing any babies being born, your own are constantly threatened are being taken, and wondering if whether or not the legends of Ragnarok were true?

    • Ohhh man. That is gloomy, but an interesting concept to think about for sure.

    • Deluge

      I’ll be like Albert.

      • Artista

        Chasing after a badass blondy on a wolf hunt? Get your Play Stations, and XBOXs ready for Blond Raider III: Wild Hunt!

    • i dont like kids and never want any, so, meh?

      • Deluge

        Glad someone stand up to say XD

      • Artista

        What’s wrong with kids? Aside from the whining, complaining (bitching), and getting into mischief.

        • basically the entire baby faze of crying, pooping, diaper changing, vomiting up recently eaten food all over you, waking you up constantly for the first 4 years, the “its mine!” faze of 6 yolds, temper tantrums, the rebellion faze of teens, spending all your money on them for a minimum of 18 years. dealing with the schools and possibly getting a spoiled brat. “professionals” every where claiming how you should raise your kid and if you don’t do it “right” your a bad parent. everyone giving you the judging eyes if you give your child a simple negative tone when disciplining your kid in public.

          nut jobs reporting you for abuse if your kid plays outside on the front lawn, or god forbid, in the kids own back yard. (this actually happened)

          for me personally i really dont find babys at all cute. just annoying crying/ pooping machines.

          http://chaoslife.findchaos.com/comics/2012-01-23Baby.png

          • Artista

            That mini-comic was perfect. Yeah, I agree on all points. Especially when “professionals” tell you how to raise a kid-because they know all about that. And anything these days can be considered “child abuse.”

          • When I was way younger, the police met with my parents several times whenever I was seen in the front, or the side of the house.
            Other kids got to play in the front. ;^;

          • Artista

            What’s your age range, Takk?

          • Not at all!
            If you don’t mind me asking first, before I answer…
            What does everyone think my age is? 😮

          • Anon

            Hmm… 16 maybe? Somewhere between 14 – 17, I think!

          • One number off. 😀

          • official 18 i think?

            even though you’ve told me your age like 3 times in chat, but i have a goldfish memory. :v

          • It’s ok, I forget my own age, too. XD

          • Artista

            I’d say between 14 and 16.

          • Pretty close, although interestingly, some people think I look a lot older than I really am! (Despite my behavior/mind, which is way behind/going backwards)
            (I’m actually supposed to be an adult by law :u)

          • Anon

            ?? Why? If it’s not too personal of a question, of course. (Also, though this might be really personal too, you mentioned in one of your other comments that you don’t understand very well what is normal in some situations because of how you were raised. What did you mean by that, out of curiosity? No need to answer if it’s too personal. I hope you’re okay).

          • Rookamillion

            Well at least the police cared enough for you to talk to your parents. Police are practically non-existent in my town. XD

          • Oh my GOD! THANK YOU! I AM SO GLAD I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE!
            *Rant time* Gawd! I deal with my annoying little brothers (one is 9 and the other is 14) and am actually babysitting them as I’m typing this (we’re watching Family Guy). But yeah I have been babysitting their asses for years every time mom and dad are at work. I am 20, going on 21 in December, and because of the BS with being used for free babysitting, I only RECENTLY got a damn job but I don’t even get to work every day, and I’ve always been stuck at the damn house. I have never gotten to go to any parties or travel around (don’t even have a damn vehicle) because I’ve always been stuck watching my brothers, who are spoiled assholes that I have to refrain from beating the shit out of.. And my fiancé thinks he wants me to have babies with him, but I said HELL NAH! He’s upset by it but he’s gonna have to either deal with it, or just leave, cuz I don’t wanna have to deal with whiny poopy kids, and well, being a female, I also don’t wanna go through pregnancy and giving birth. I hear it’s painful, and I HATE pain. And I don’t want to get fat and ruin my body all for a damn child. *rant over*

          • AHMEN!!!

          • Artista

            Ugh, I WISH I saw more parents give their kids a tone when they act out, instead of just letting them scream their heads off. I’ve even seen negligence and kids run around without their parents knowing. It’s even more infuriating because my store has a wall dedicated to finding missing people. Youngest I’ve see on it was four months old. If I wouldn’t get fired for it, I’d tell the parents to keep a closer eye on their kids, otherwise their pictures and bio is gonna end up on that wall.

    • Rookamillion

      I wouldn’t fear, for I would know the divinely glorious and feminine hands of Fab shall deliver me to redemption. XD

      • Artista

        Uhhh…. The dragons want to exterminate the human race.

      • Artista

        If you worship Archbishop Fab, then it is imperative you know his Anthem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkwyQZXzdF8

        • Rookamillion

          Yes, Artista! Sing forth the Gospel of Fab! XD

          • Artista

            One has to wonder what the authors think when we do this stuff to their characters.

    • Bloodwolf

      I would look into cloning. Maybe they could clone the white human spirit.

      • Artista

        Well, they are trying to transfer another White Spirit into a human body. Cloning wouldn’t be possible because Askr was killed in the Spirit World, probably waiting to be reincarnated again.

        • Shop Dog

          so you would clone bodies without souls in them.

          • That… Would be interesting to see in the comic. What do soulless creatures look like/act like? Tomatoes? Empty beings?

          • Tomatoes. I’m putting my money on tomatoes.

          • well a soul is basically what you are. likes/ dislikes, emotions, and physical feeling.

            i imagine a body without a soul acts like an insect basically like a snail. they follow the basic instincts of mate, eat, sleep until they die. but dont feel anything else and dont really grow in knowledge. such as no talking, no hobbys or skills, not caring for anything, not even themselfs really, and have no reaction to anything happening to them like being eaten.

            talking to someone souless mite be like trying to interact with a empty flower pot.

          • Pheenixorphan X

            I’ve talked to a plant once. Yeah fun times that was.
            The wall was a better conversationalist. XD

            This gives me an idea for a character concept. A character that slowly gains a soul and personality but at first acts like a dead fish.
            I know this comment is old but this tread under this page so I couldn’t help it. XD

          • lol. XD

          • Artista

            You need a soul in order to live.

          • Shop Dog

            well not really your body culd still be ALIVE, heart beating breathing, reacting to pain and bright light the basic instincts. but it wouldn’t be LIVING, no desire to go out and do anything, learn anything, interact with others, enjoy fun things, it would just sit there all day in a chair not doing much of anything.

          • Kinda sounds similar to a massive organ donor, except maybe having a brain.

    • Shop Dog

      sex without dealing with children might lead to some active relationships.

  • Artista

    This one night, this one night,
    Every night and all
    Fyre and fleet and candle light
    And Fenrir receive thy soul

    If ever thou clothe and shoe
    every night and all
    Sit thee down and put there more
    And Fenrir receive thy soul

    The fyre will burn thee lord
    and Fenrir receive thy soui

  • Deluge

    Here’s the answer Artista, reddog f.13

  • Usagi Kamakazi

    Anyone notice the suggestive tongue? Or is it just me…

    • Shop Dog

      no its just you, dogs do that.

    • Deluge

      All canines do that when they’re happy or relax.

    • anon

      I noticed that it looks a little like something else now that you mention it, haha. But yeah, probably accidental. 😉

  • Artista

    The following statements was brought you by Artista doing research on mental illnesses: I really hope they write Gebo’s character arc well, including his trauma over his entire family being slaughtered. I hope we get more Gebo in the revised edition because he received too little attention in the draft with that big of a psychological blow. I hope they can make Gebo relatable to those who’ve had traumatic experiences.

    • As someone with bipolar-depression, anxiety, and PTSD, I support this! Showing real life mental disorders would make this comic even better (I mean it was already awesome to begin with but like you said, Gebo didn’t get as much attention as he should have). I also would like if they add a sequence in the part where they meet Othala’s pack, where Gebo and Fehu have a more touching reunion with their families than what was originally shown, and perhaps more backstory like their own pup hood and then how they had split up from the pack to begin with. It would make the entire reunion and the later trauma WAY more deep and meaningful.

      • Artista

        By chance, have you seen Legend of Korra’s depiction of mental illness. It’s pretty realistic for a ‘kids’ show. I’ve noticed certain shows aimed at kids are showing more real-life issues. The question is will the creators handle sensitive things with care? Most don’t. Though, Konieztko and DiMartino did well.

      • Artista

        If you don’t mind my asking, what do you think on the media’s common portrayal of people with mental problems? I invite others to share their opinions as well.

        • Ehh.. I dunno. The media seems to romanticize mental disorders quite often and try to make it look like it’s supposed to be all adorable or cool, and it annoys me because mental disorders are NOT something you’d want to have in reality. Hallucinations from panic attacks are NOT cool nor fun. Feeling like you’re suffocating and like the room you’re in is getting smaller and smaller is fucking Hell. Sitting alone feeling like you’re unworthy and unimportant and like your existence is a mistake, fearing that you will never be a priority or of any real worth to someone and that all you will ever do is push away everyone you love, is not fucking cute. Cutting yourself and then having to hide your self-inflicted wounds, is not a cool exciting rush. It is fucking painful and you end up feeling deep regrets, along with shame. Trying to hide the cuts is hell enough already.. Just imagine; your arms or thighs or even chest or stomach and sides covered in your own self-inflicted cuts and then having to wear extra clothing to keep them covered, no matter how hot the day is. Your sweat getting into the wounds along with the fabric scraping against them, making it agonizingly sore. Or taking a shower and wincing and cringing from the soap and hot water just TOUCHING the wounds. It isn’t fun. And not only does it hurt, but you’re left with a very deep feeling of shame and guilt because you promised someone special that you’d stop harming yourself yet you did it again. You feel horrible because you want to go to that person and confess to them what you did, but are also afraid it would push them away and just simply don’t want them to know because you know it would hurt them. You feel ashamed because you WANT to get better and you WANT to stop. But just CAN’T, no matter how hard you try to. No matter how well off your life may actually be or how many people care for you. You just constantly feel alone, and scared that someday, you will lose someone special to you. Not only that, but you also deal with people, even those you’d expect to support and love you, calling you over-dramatic and telling you that you’re overreacting over something that’s not even a big deal. You have to deal with them calling you selfish and asking why you feel that way, saying that you shouldn’t because you have such a good life. Knowing that they will never understand what goes through your head throughout the day. It makes you feel even more like complete shit because you know it’s true and wish you could just stop and make it end, and also infuriates you because you’re so sick and tired of being lectured and told that you need professional help, because you know from experience that doctors and professionals can’t make your life happier. In fact you just feel more uncomfortable, because you do not know them personally, and you feel like you need to talk to people you know on a deep emotional level but also know they can’t be there for you 24/7 no matter how badly you may wish they could.. So sometimes you could REALLY need a loved one but they’re not there so you’re left sitting alone with your thoughts until you begin to lose it and have panic attacks and you feel physically ill. You feel exhausted yet are too scared or upset to go to sleep. When or if you finally DO fall asleep, you do not want to wake back up especially if you don’t have any messages or missed calls from someone special to you. You check your phone and see nothing for you, and you just feel your heart sink and you just force your mind to shut down again. It’s all honestly just a horrible cycle because some days you may feel just fine, and you feel very happy and suddenly – BAM! – you’re feeling depressed and/or seemingly emotionless or you’re panicking about something. All outta nowhere. It’s Hell. And honestly, if people are gonna portray all of that as something “cool” or “cute” and “adorable”, then they can fucking have MY disorders. Because I do not want them.

          • Deluge

            Wow, i-i can’t say anything. It just really hit my mind and ache my heart whenever i read every phrase. And yeah being lectured really got me but i don’t hurt myself.

          • Artista

            What Deluge said. I’m really taken aback, even after spending a couple of days thinking what to write. I don’t know what to say really… If it’s all right, may I ask why you cut yourself? From what I understand people may cut because they can’t stand the pain inside.

          • Yeah it’s all right. I don’t mind you asking.. At times, I don’t even know why I cut myself either… Sometimes it just happens and I’m not aware until afterwards.. Kinda like I snapped or something. Something bad will happen in my life and next thing I know I’m covered in a mess of deep and painful cuts.. Sometimes when I AM more aware, I do a few small cuts as a form of release, or because I feel numb.. I honestly hate doing it and I wanna stop, but in a way it is addictive. Like a bad habit. And it hurts me even worse when people accuse me of doing it for attention and pity, because it really isn’t my intention at all.

          • Shop Dog

            i actually want to cry reading this. im sorry golden wold i know it dosnt help you or others in the same place. for me there was a time when i would cut up my arms when i felt like shit or felt alone. i all ways hid my arms in the same long sleeve shirt covering them. until i got to high school, thats where i found the machine shop, ford a place to put things to work i put my hands to work not just holding knives and having my mind locked on the same shitty people in my life, i pushed them away i didn’t care about how stupid i looked wearing flannel shirts all year long while the others kept to what ever fashion. every chance i got i went to the machine shop from 3:15 when school got out till 9 i stayed there with the only friends i could truly understand, the machinery the hot iorn, the milling machines the lathes. i became so i tune with the equipment i practically became a master. some how or another i got snagged up be our schools robitics team there i made friends people i feld i could compare with in the machine shop. over time people i liked graduated more people came in to replace them doing other jobs. the new guys didint care how hard i worked all they cared about was the finished product. over time i felt more and more like the kids where taking advantage of me, but i kept the gears turning because thats all i had. then i found my self being replaced as they found two brothers who although didint have as meny hours committed as i did where better looking than me, they had there own home workshop with equipment. not being a valuable member of the team like i was before wouldn’t have as bad, but then he also

          • Deluge

            Find the 1 thing that makes you happy even if it’s crazy hell yeah!!

          • Artista

            I’m happy you got that offer! Those only come once in a lifetime. Especially by the Japanese. XD

          • Shop Dog

            the school itself isnt Japanese its american the man who recruited me was Japanese.

          • Artista

            I know. I was acting the stereotype that Japanese Don’t like non-Asians. 🙂

          • I actually got set off from reading this, from being too relatable, but mostly because I was reminded of how many of those special to me I lose…

          • Deluge

            Oh no you don’t. You cannot started to sulking in the corner just because you’re not related in this conversation. Hop in XD

          • Well, what I mean by that was… my least favorite word, trigger
            Let’s just say I entered a horrible, dark realm within the depths of my mind. Sometimes to a point where I’m not “present”. Happens far too often a week. Pure psychological/emotional torture is worse than any physical pain.

          • Wolfie

            wahaha XD

          • Artista

            Never ceases to make make me laugh.

          • Artista

            I thought I’d share this since you shared with me.The reason why I made that post about Gebo and researching mental illness is because I went through a psychosis around four yeArs ago. For those whip don’t know it is a mental health condition where you may hallucinatate, hear voices etc. I…was very different when I was in it. I didn’t recognize my family as family, saw peopLe with no irises just white orbs. Some memories are still vivid. One in particular. I was screaming at my mother, caLling her all sorts of things. I remember he r sobbing, me screaming at the top of my lungs. I can’t stop recalling me yellling….”I’m going to be a Marine.” Called her more things while she said, “please stop. ” even though it’s been four years I still remember it. Even though I wasn’t sane I still have guilt over that and other things. When I recall it I still hear The volume of my voice and her sobs as as said those words. Every time I remember it my fist clenches, my face contortes in anger, anguish and guilt, I’ve myself breathing heavily sometimes. Needless I know, but still….it hurts. When I gained sanity, I would see a psychotherpist and that crappy psychologist. I still had fresh memories, trying to figure out why the hell it happened, even wondering IF I did something wrong to deserve it. My mom gave me a Christian book that deals with hard times in life-good intentions-but the book dead and silent to me. I should add I do believe God kept me from suicide (I thought about it a lot) eventually we found a church which helped my family recover, though I never spoke to anyone about it, even though I’m sure the pastor knows. I stopped writing, something I enjoyed, because I couldn’t trust my mental narration-afraid I would start hearing voices again. I also stopped looking at anything that involved wolves or the military. I wanted to distance myself from it as much as possible. I thought that if I got off the meds everything would be back to normal. I wanted a quick cure, only to find out that in reality quick cures don’t exist. It took a lot of tears and anger to figure it out. Years actually. I never spoke about how I felt because I didn’t want to hear, “you need to let it go!” Personally, I hate that phrase because how can you just let go of something that terrifies you, has cause you to beg God, even in your dreams, to not go through it again? Only, they Don’t tell you HOW to let it go! I also thought it’d be useless because it happened years ago, so shouldn’t I be over it by now? I actually thought that a week ago. I think another issue I had was that I didn’t acknowledge I was still depressed and sad about it to myself. I didn’t want to admit I was still pained from it in some way. Instead, I put it on the back burner, though that one menory would come back at some points, usually when I was alone. As long as I didn’t think about I was okay. But when I did… Didn’t acknowledge it until recently when I began doing research on mental illnesses that I might still be healing, emotionally. That research spurred me to look at some common stereotypes, which led me to comparing myself to Gebo-because I know what it’s like to go through something horrible that haunts you even after a long time. Seriously, I am scared shitless by the thought of going back into that nightmare. It turns out healing takes time. Patience. Even though we want to be better immediately… Still wonder why I went through it, but I guess God doesn’t think I’m ready to know yet. Healing takes time.

      • Artista

        OOOHHHH! What if they gradually revealed that throughout the comic, like say if Iki and Gebo were to talk about what happened? As much as I like your idea, it’d probably add more pages to the volume as a whole. And it can be interesting not knowing their pasts until the next volume. OOH! Gebo having flashbacks! A more touching reunion is needed imo. Minus Fehu tail on auto-wag, which doesn’t suit an old wolf like him.

        • He’d break his back from how that overexcitemed tail wag went. XD

          • Artista

            I was surprised he didn’t give himself an aneurism or stroke.

  • Artista

    Who wants to see Hati vs. Sköll? If you do, check oyt Akreon’s deviantart page pront!

    • Deluge

      Yep, i see it and it’s awesome. Also no post the pic of Akreon just check it on his Deviant Art, it is really worth as Artista shared the news, we should respect Akreon job. Doink XD

      • Artista

        Ive been rereading Hati and Skoll’s argument. I’m wondering if Hati will try to kill even Raigho.

        Hati: Bro, I had an argument with Skoll.
        Raigho: Excellent! Now I can go home.
        Hati: Well, Skoll was being selfish douche and decided to not do his job and ‘relaxe for his final lifetime.
        Raigho: Okay…
        Hati: So I’m going to ruin his life by killing all of you because duty and shit.
        Raigho: So I put my pack through a long journey, risking our lives, died then resurrected for nothing?
        Hati: Yep!
        Raigho: Tomorrow morning I’m going to Archbishop Fabulous-Fab and request that he kill you.

        • Deluge

          Fab:)Afterall i’m am merciful
          Raigho:)And also Fabulous
          Fab:)Oh stop it (/ε\*)

      • Artista

        I saw one of there sketch dumps. Some of the best anatomy I’ve see on dA. Not kidding. It became obvious to me the the girls work hard with what they do as artists. Skeletone base drawing are crazy hard.

    • TheRebelLion96

      Hopefully, we will get to see that well awaited grudge match in the next volume or two. But it is pretty cool!

  • Your picture instantly brightened my day nonetheless. XD

    • Deluge

      Well your compliment really makes me blush

  • Arcaine

    Honestly. I think the old version is way better.
    It pretty much says that Iki is able to listen to a story with interest, BUT once something exciting seems to be happening he completely forgets about it.
    Here it seems like an annoying and sassy furball.